Windows 7 Beta on the Samsung NC10 Netbook

Friday, January 9, 2009 – 2:38 PM

Update: New version of this for the final Windows 7 release is here!

Windows 7 on the Samsung NC10The Windows 7 Team just announced a public beta and I’ve been itching to give it a try. I thought I’d see just how netbook friendly the Windows team have made Windows 7 and if a typical netbook actually had the juice to run it. What else was I going to do with my evening anyway? Hang out? drink beer?

Find out how I got on running the Windows 7 beta on my Samsung NC10 netbook…


First off… BACK UP YOUR MACHINE!. I’ve not had any issues with Windows 7 so far but it is a Beta. I don’t recommend doing what this guy did and upgrade your main machine… it’s a beta people!

You can use the Samsung Recovery Solution III utility to do this. I backed everything up onto an external USB drive before attempting to install Windows 7.

Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft and dogfood beta software a lot. If I had to reformat and rebuild the original XP install on my NC10 tomorrow it wouldn’t be a big deal. I’m not recommending everyone goes out and runs a beta Windows 7 on their NC10 for every day use. Betas aren’t for everyone!

After backing up I downloaded the Windows 7 Beta from here and burnt it onto DVD. I managed to borrow a USB DVD drive from work to do the install. If you don’t have a USB DVD drive then another option would be to copy the contents of the DVD onto a USB HDD and install off that.

Next I ran the setup from the installed version of Windows XP. The NC10 comes with two 70Gb partitions with XP installed on the C: drive. I copied any data I had on the D: drive off it and so I could use that partition for Windows 7. ALL DATA ON THE PARTITION MAY BE LOST DURING THE INSTALL.

After the install is complete, including a couple of restarts the NC10 will show the Windows Boot Manager giving you two options:

Earlier Version of Windows
Windows 7

You have 30 seconds to pick an OS or Windows 7 will start. Selecting the “Earlier Version” option will start your original XP installation.

Once you’ve logged into Windows 7 you can change the startup settings using the BCDEDIT utility. BCDEDIT can modify the timeout, change the description(s) and set XP to be the OS that starts by default:

BCDEDIT /SET {ntldr} description “Windows XP SP3”
BCDEDIT /SET {bootmgr} default “{ntldr}”

More details of how to use BCDEDIT can be found here. Remember to start BCDEDIT from a command prompt run as administrator.

Drivers and Updates

The new Windows 7 desktop I encountered some network driver issues and had to setup the network after the installation had finished. I had some minor issues getting the NC10 wireless card working with my wireless hub and ended up having to put it into b/g compatibility mode. I’ve not figured out quite what the problem was but haven’t seen it with other wireless networks.

  • The Marvell Yukon Ethernet controller wasn’t working right off and I ended up installing the Vista x86 device driver from Marvell’s site. This fixed the problem and I was up and running.
  • I also installed the Synaptics touchpad Vista x86 driver from the Synaptics site but not the two finger scrolling software (see below).
  • Microsoft Presenter Mouse drivers are already available, as are drivers for other Microsoft hardware. This got my Microsoft mouse up and running with all the bells and whistles.
  • I replaced the generic sound drivers with the Realtek HD Sound Drivers for Vista which got the microphone working. Thanks to Younes for pointing this one out (see his comment below).

Updated Jan 21st:

If you want to get two finger scrolling working you can install the original NC10 touchpad driver for XP and then install the two finger scrolling software (which doesn’t seem to like the Vista touchpad drivers). Thanks to Jon for this (see his comments below).

The original post suggested using some of Samsung’s Vista utilities for their Q1 series. Turns out there there are more recent ones available for the X360-34P. Easy Battery Manager 3 and Easy Display Manager These install fine when run as Administrator and don’t have the same problems the previous utilities did. Thanks to David @ Microsoft for figuring this one out.

First Impressions

Samsung NC10 Windows Experience Index

So having got the install out of the way with no major issues does Windows 7 deliver on the NC10?

The NC10 gets a Windows Experience Index of 2.2 with the Atom processor (2.2) and graphics card (2.3) accounting for this. Accordingly you wouldn’t expect the NC10 to run high end applications or games. Here’s the description of the expected performance for low WEI values:

“A computer with a base score of 1 or 2 usually has sufficient performance to do most general computing tasks, such as run office productivity applications and search the Internet. However, a computer with this base score is generally not powerful enough to run Windows Aero, or the advanced multimedia experiences that are available with Windows 7.”

This is pretty similar to what you’d expect out of the NC10 when running XP. It’s a netbook not a high end laptop. Given that almost all the NC10’s competitors use virtually identical hardware I’d expect them to get similar WEI values. We may see some improvements in WEI when Intel release a Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows with WDDM 1.1 support (see Richard’s comment below).

What more could you really want? For all that the UI seems very snappy, certainly as responsive as the original XP installation. Most importantly I can have the Pokemon clock gadget on my desktop. What more could I ask for? That’s all I really wanted… some say I’m easily satisfied, and they’d be right.

In fact I ended up with a slick new UI without the big resource requirements of Vista.

One of the criticisms of Vista is that it was very memory hungry and simply required too many resources to run effectively on low end machines. Sitting idle with no applications running about 530Mb of the NC10’s memory is used with Windows 7. This compares reasonably with the original Windows XP install which used about 330Mb when idle. I gave the Samsung a 2Gb memory upgrade when it arrived so things are looking good.

Windows 7 on the Samsung NC10In the process of getting to grips with Windows 7 I also came across some improvements that the Windows Live team has made; new versions of Windows Live Toolbar and Live Messenger. The Windows 7 site has  some preview videos showing off all of the new features. You can also find more updates on the Windows 7 Team Blog.

So far my only gripe is that IE 8, and other applications has a very thick menu and toolbar. This presents problems in the vertically challenged netbook with only six hundred vertical pixels to play with. Some auto hiding menus and toolbars would be a nice netbook friendly feature for Windows 7 applications. If that’s the most negative thing I can come up with then I figure things are looking pretty good. All my favorite applications seem to be running fine.

Updated Jan 21st: For IE this problem is solved by running in full screen mode using F11. Thanks to Alan for reminding me of this (see his comment below). Firefox also supports the same feature.

The battery life when running the NC10 under Windows 7, although 7 has it’s own power management features including adaptive display brightness. Currently this is just something you have to deal with if you want to run a Windows 7 beta.

Given my experiences so far I’m going to make Windows 7 my primary OS on the Samsung NC10 and see how I get on. When Windows 7 RTM’s I plan to rebuild the machine from scratch (not upgrade). In the meantime if I run into issues I’ll try and post fixes here.

  1. 116 Responses to “Windows 7 Beta on the Samsung NC10 Netbook”

  2. I definitely don’t advise anyone to use the same hellbent attitude I have :) but hey what’s live without a little bit of living on the edge eh :)

    By Steven Hodson on Jan 10, 2009

  3. Your WE Index figures are too low. Suggests that
    you have not found the new Intel accelerator
    driver for Vista. This will boost non game
    graphics to 4.2 and the processor to 3.2.

    By richard plumb on Jan 10, 2009

  4. Hi Richard,

    I assume you mean the Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows Vista* 32. The version available for download is for Vista only and doesn’t run on Windows 7. I’m currently running a WDDM 1.0 driver but haven’t been able to find a 1.1 driver on Intel’s site.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 10, 2009

  5. Great post ade, thanks for sharing the link over on my little NC10 site. I’ve put up a more prominent post on the main blog pointing over here. I’m about 30% through the download myself.

    By Jez - Samsung NC10 Community on Jan 11, 2009

  6. Hello,

    I am having a problem with the integrated Microphone. It is not picking up any sound. The speakers are working great. Any help appreciated.

    By Younes on Jan 11, 2009

  7. Younes,

    I installed the Realtek HD Audio drivers from here and this has fixed the issue. I can now record sound.

    I used the first one Vista Driver (32/64 bits) Driver only (ZIP file).


    By Ade Miller on Jan 11, 2009

  8. Vista software for the Samsung Q works in Windows 7 (Samsung Updater, Easy Battery Manager which creates a Samsung profile in the Power Management software, probably other stuff). Display dimming works, I wished there was a way to disable it though so I don’t have to push a key every 90secs when watching a movie and running on battery.

    By ArKay on Jan 11, 2009

  9. Thanks ArKay,

    I downloaded some of the software from the Samsung site. I got Play Camera and the Battery Manager to work OK but the Display Manager has a few issues.

    The thing I’d really like is the chipset drivers as they may bump the overall performance.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 11, 2009

  10. Hi Ade,
    compliments for your topic, very helpfull.


    By Matteo on Jan 12, 2009

  11. So, I’ve upgraded my Sammy to Windows 7 and installed the Easy Battery Manager that was posted above to see what could be done to make adjustments to the power management. However, it has now permanently dimmed my screen. I’ve uninstalled, reinstalled, reverted back to a previous system configuration… No luck so far. Anyone have ideas how to get my screen brightness back? Fn keys don’t seem to work either. Thanks!

    By Ryan79260 on Jan 12, 2009

  12. Ryan,

    I’ve also seen the display do this. I’ve actually updated the post above to be more explicit about this and correct one of the links. Obviously installing utilities for the Q1 on the NC10 is going to be hit and miss.

    Things seem to be working OK for me now at least. If I figure out how I got the behavior to improve I’ll post an update here.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 12, 2009

  13. Ryan,

    I played around with this a bit more this evening and now have the Easy Display Manager working to a point. I used the versions for the Q1P Vista.

    These seem to work OK if run as admin. The only issue I have is that the Display Manager seems to need to be started twice as admin (second time you see a splash screen). Dimming works for me. Uninstall previous versions first.

    This may be as good as it gets until Samsung release Windows 7 versions for the NC10. Which may or may not happen when Windows 7 RTMs if a similar Samsung device needs them.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 12, 2009

  14. Pressing F11 while using IE8 auto hides the menu and toolbars moving the mouse to the top of the screen brings them back temporerily and press in F11 again brings them back preminently. This works on windows 7 on a note book so should work on the netbook.

    Sorry if I’m telling you something you already know but if not hope it helps.


    By Alan Whitehouse on Jan 13, 2009

  15. This is not working for me at all. I was one hour into the install on my Aspire One (SSD 8GB version), after its 2nd reboot
    it tells me that it is not compatible with the hardware??? Then I rebooted again, it now tells me “windows could not complete the installation. To install windows on this computer, restart the installation”

    What’s going on? I’m running the official W7 Beta 7000 build on my Aspire One 8GB SSD version.

    By Chad on Jan 13, 2009

  16. Chad,

    I’ve not tried this on an Aspire One but from this post it looks like XP isn’t supported so my guess is that Windows 7 isn’t either.

    I’d speculate that there isn’t a driver for the SSD and you’r going to have to wait until someone makes one available before running Windows 7 on it.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 13, 2009

  17. Good site, I also run Win7 beta on my Samsung nc10 with 1 GB ram (till now). All works fine ;-)
    Also I run Drivermax to renew the Intel drivers with succes.

    Strange, by start I have the old Vista bar moving and not the swinging bulbs :-? Did you?

    By Robert on Jan 14, 2009

  18. I can’t place a folder/icon in the taskbar anymore. What is happend here??

    By Robert on Jan 14, 2009

  19. Where did you download the WDDM 1.0 drivers and do they accelerate Windows 7 a bit? Can you give me a URL? Thanks a lot. Besides of the slow gfx it’s running like a charm!

    By Moreno on Jan 14, 2009

  20. i purchased the nc10 yesterday form my mother (84….) w7 has definitely the better ui over xp, so i did not hesitate and installed ir right away…now the question: is there a way to make the brightness adjustable? via fn keys? or how?
    many thanks for any help

    By Andy on Jan 14, 2009

  21. Moreno,

    The WDDM 1.0 drivers install as part of the Windows 7 beta install. I’ve been told that Intel has already developed Windows 7 specific drivers (see Richard’s post above) but currently the ones that come with Windows 7 beta are the latest I’ve been able to find for the 945 chipset.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 14, 2009

  22. Andy,

    I have adjustable brightness working. If you run the Easy Display Manager. I’ve not resolved all the issues with getting this working. EDM requires you to run it twice and you only see the splash screen on the second attempt. The first attempt gives you an error dialog. I haven’t had time to investigate further. I’ve updated the original post this this information.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 14, 2009

  23. Robert,

    When I drag an folder/icon onto the taskbar Windows asks me if I want to pin it there. Program icons (application shortcuts) seem to work as expected, the program gets added to the taskbar. Files and folders do not. Reading this post by the Windows 7 team it would appear that this was a concious design choice.

    Instead Windows 7 supports the concept of Jump Lists. If you pin a folder to the taskbar and then right click on the folder item you’ll see a list of Pinned and Frequent folders in the Jump List. Your folder should appear under Pinned.

    You might also want to check this post out. It includes details of some of the new things in Windows 7 you might not have seen yet.



    Incidentally several other people have made the same comment about adding folders to the task bar.

    By Ade Miller on Jan 14, 2009

  24. I’m not going to be reading this blog or moderating comments for the next couple of days as I’ll be travelling.

    New comments will not show up and I’ll not be able to answer questions. Please be patient. I’ll get to them on my return on the weekend.



    By Ade Miller on Jan 14, 2009

  25. Alan,

    Nice. I’ve never used F11 on a desktop because there’s pretty much always enough screen real estate. On a netbook this really comes into it’s own.



    By Ade Miller on Jan 14, 2009

  26. Quick question before I install Windows 7, do you know whether bluetooth installs succesfully and on a random note whether Nokia PC Suite installs?!

    By Jon on Jan 14, 2009

  27. Fore all they want the Quick Launch back,
    The quick launch is still on the original place and you can use it if you like, so do I ;-)
    Look at C:\Users\owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch
    Go to Toolbars / New Toolbar and lock on that.

    By Robert on Jan 15, 2009

  28. So I too am riding this train of Windows 7 on NC10 and so far I am a happy bunny. The combination is actually so good that I can’t take hands off my laptop…oh sorry netbook, anymore :)

    Regarding the drivers/utilities, these are what I use:
    LAN: Marvel Yukon (same as in this post)
    SOUND: Realtek
    Display: Built in WDDM 1.0 (have not been able to find the supposedly released WDDM 1.1 so far)

    Samsung Utilities – I have been using the original XP Samsung utilities without any tweak whatsoever (except that I had turned off UAC before installing anything) and the following work perfectly fine for me so far:

    – Play Camera
    – Display Manager i.e. Fn Keys for brightness, volume, wan etc.
    – Battery Manager (with dimming etc. working fine)

    The reason I went about with XP drivers to begin with is because prior to 7 I had installed Vista and all the three Samsung utilities (these are the only ones I use) worked fine with it – so hoped that it would work for 7 too… and it did!

    By Ronin on Jan 15, 2009

  29. >>This is not working for me at all. I was one hour into the install on my Aspire One (SSD 8GB version), after its 2nd reboot
    it tells me that it is not compatible with the hardware???

    Chad – this is because you only have an 8Gb SSD – just tried it on a Dell Mini 9 with the same results.

    will try installing on an external 16Gb usb drive instead.


    By roger on Jan 16, 2009

  30. Excellent, excellent post Ade – got my (blue) NC10 yesterday, put in my 2GB DDR and then stepped through the Windows 7 installation – pretty much flawless.

    I still get the Easy Display error dialogue – but other than that everything is working fine – even Skype seems happy (Beta 4).

    Thanks to you (and the earlier reviewers and posters) for doing the legwork! :)

    By chillyspoon on Jan 17, 2009

  31. Hi Ade,
    first of all, thanks a lot for this article. I bought my NC10 yesterday and Seven installation worked like a charm thanks to this article.
    I’d like to contribute a little and say that the RealTek HD drivers also fix something else. With the basic audio drivers, I had no sound coming to my headphones. Once I had the RealTek drivers installed, it worked.
    Thanks again for this great work Ade.

    By Kroaaa on Jan 17, 2009

  32. Jon,

    I have a bluetooth based Microsoft Presenter mouse working on the NC10 but haven’t tried the Nokia software.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 17, 2009

  33. Thanks for the reply Ade, I’ve not got around to installing Nokia PC suite yet – will update when I try – but am very happy to say Windows 7 is everything Vista should have been in the first place. I now think of Vista as a beta of Windows 7 lol. I know it’s unfair lol…
    Is there anyone else who has tried the Samsung Display & Battery managers (XP versions) as mentioned by “Ronin on Jan 15, 2009″ (as above)? Sounds like the older versions may be more happy to work on Win7 than the newer Vista versions?

    By Jon on Jan 18, 2009

  34. Quick update: just tried installing the XP versions of Display manager, Battery Manager and Magic Keyboard (as it’s required for display manager to work) and all installed without issue and seem to work without issue too!
    All Samsung FN keys seem to be working, and the screen dimming/brightness also works when you unplug the netbook from the power supply.

    By Jon on Jan 18, 2009

  35. Latest news: Installed Nokia PC Suite successfully following these instructions here:

    Essentially all you do is use the “troubleshoot compatibility” (on the right click menu on the installation .exe) then press next until you are able to tick from a selection of 4 choices. Tick “This program worked in previous versions of windows….” and also “The program requires additional permissions”
    After this, click next until the nokia install starts and you’ll be asked if you want to “save these settings” in a new window that appears. Say yes and follow the normal Nokia install instructions and that should be all!

    I installed the latest (downloaded today) Nokia PC Suite v.7.1
    For more info, refer to the helpful article where I sourced this information from :-)

    Now all I hope is that I can do the same method to make my printer install work!

    By Jon on Jan 18, 2009

  36. One last update!
    Install the Samsung NC10 XP Synaptics drivers rather than those suggested in Ades (excellent) write up above (as it includes more 2 finger options than the ones suggested). To install you will have to tell it to run in compatibility mode then of course XP with permissions (just in case they’re needed). Run, install, restart computer.
    Remove the scroll settings in the mouse settings within Control Pannel and the Pinch function too.
    Run 2 finger scroll, you may have to restart for it to take effect, but once done works absolutely perfectly!
    I think I also use it in compatibility mode (XP) and that seems fine. All the options are accessible and so it all works well :-)

    Samsung Synaptics Touchpad drivers available here:

    2 Finger Scroll available here:

    By Jon on Jan 18, 2009

  37. Further to my last post here (sorry it’s becoming a bit of an essay) I’ve reinstalled Windows7 on my NC10 as I was having windows update issues. Anyway, cut a long story short, when I reinstalled, I tried to install the XP synaptics Samsung Drivers just as before, using compatibility mode and this did not work!
    My work around was very simply to go to device manager, go to the touchpad entry and use the update driver tool from there and point the directory towards the XP drivers folder I had placed on the desktop. This worked perfectly, so hopefully it will for everyone else too!
    I had further issues when trying to install stuff using the compatibility troubleshooter which on my previous install I did not. Quite bizarre, but I suppose this is why it’s called a beta.
    BTW. Lexmark printer drivers were a pain to install too, using “run as administrator” got around the issues, even when (for my printer) Lexmark specifically replied to my query by saying they would NOT support it on Windows 7. In other words, to all you who do not use “supported” hardware, it’s worth giving it a try to see if you can install it, as I did and now my printer works perfectly. For anyone interested, it’s a Lexmark X4875 and when I say it all works, I’m including the scan and wireless abilities (scan searches your computer for programs able to accept a scan/make a file) oh and I used Lexmark’s Vista Drivers.

    By Jon on Jan 19, 2009

  38. Jon,

    Thanks! This is great info. Worthy of it’s own blog post. I’ve ben having a a couple of blue screens – I suspect due to a bad driver. I’m going to try your approach in the next day or so when I get time.

    Thanks again.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 19, 2009

  39. Hi all,

    Managed to get W7 running perfectly on my NC10, with only one issue that I can’t seem to solve. I want to set the GMA 450 to not stretch the display when running at below-native res, for gaming. Under XP the NC10 has a GMA 450 control panel, but under W7 it doesn’t seem to.

    Any ideas?



    By S_Bruv on Jan 20, 2009

  40. Hi again,

    Further to the above, do we think it might be worth trying the NC10 GMA 945 driver for XP (sorry – should be ‘945, not ‘450’ in my previous post)?



    By S_Bruv on Jan 20, 2009

  41. Gave the XP driver a try and it wouldn’t install, so that’s clearly a no-no. I guess I’m waiting for an update from Intel, then, unless anyone’s got a work-around…



    By S_Bruv on Jan 21, 2009

  42. S_B,

    I don’t think there’s a driver available yet. I was looking for something similar as it may improve the Windows Experience Index.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 21, 2009

  43. Hi Ade,

    Oh well, we’ll just have to wait on Intel then, I guess.

    Still blown away by W7 on the NC10 nonetheless. :)


    By S_Bruv on Jan 21, 2009

  44. Handy info, thanks. Just got my NC10 up and running with W7, and most of those drivers listed here. Aero was turned on by default for me, which I thought strange as it needed a score above 3 for that. Anyway, not complaining, although I did upgrade to 2GB ram straigt away. Homegroup connected straight away, v impressed with that. Will post further updates as I complete install (stil got a 2nd NC10 to go!)


    By Charlie on Jan 22, 2009

  45. Hi Ade – thank you for your effort, I have been running win7 on my nc10 now for the last couple of weeks now and pretty much all seems to be working.

    the only problem i am having is that my bluetooth appears to be on but can not find or be found.

    Has anyone else had similar problems or can anyone suggest replacement drivers?

    By Neil on Jan 22, 2009

  46. Hi,

    I just got an NC10 and installed Win 7 as a dual boot (copied Win7.iso to folder on C: and set it up on D: via a virtual CD app. from within XP).

    I also had an issue with the BLUETOOTH so tried the Vista drivers for my Acer (also uses Broadcom). It installed, set-up and works perfectly showing as “Broadcom Bluetooth 2.0 EDR USB Dongle”.

    I set up dial-up networking with my Nokia and it gave some error notices about Nokia drivers missing (I have not yet installed PC Suite). I was still able to establish a dial-up connection with O2 3G and surf web.

    By Eddie on Jan 23, 2009

  47. Thanks guys for all your hard work.

    Windows 7 has pretty much gone in without hassle. Your driver tips have been great.

    However, I have had problems. The Windows XP Display Manager keeps hanging. It will work fine for a little while, then it will just stop. I have to kill the process and start it again.

    The XP Synaptics driver just kept hanging all the time. The Vista one didn’t (but didn’t give me a lot of the new features).

    I did find a far newer dual XP/Vista driver and that has been working a treat. I found it at

    I also now and then have problems shutting down. It just hangs forever. Live Messenger sometimes hangs up completely and I can’t even kill the process, and it won’t shut down. I have to hard power down.

    Well, it is beta :-)

    I only have 1GB ram, a replacement 2GB chip is sitting on my desk in the office. If it helps things, I’ll let you know.


    By Mark on Jan 23, 2009

  48. Hi Mark,

    I actually found some better Display Manager and Battery Manager utilities that seem to work a lot better than the original ones. They’re newer versions from Samsung for Vista. I updated the original post above with new links. The XP Display Manager definitely had issues.

    Someone also discovered that running the original NC10 touchpad driver in XP compatibility mode allows you to use the two finger scrolling utility I blogged about a while back. I’ve reverted to this as I really like the two finger scrolling feature.

    I’ve not seen the shutdown issues another Gb of RAM may help.



    By Ade Miller on Jan 23, 2009

  49. Hi Ade.

    My problem is with the newer Vista Display Manager as shown in your update above. It will eventually hang and I need to kill it and restart it.

    Well, it kind of half-heartedly limps along. I don’t get the on-screen graphics when I press the buttons, but the volume keys still carry out their function. The “turn off backlight” button stops working completely if I no longer see the on-screen graphics.

    The XP touchpad driver crashed left, right and centre for me. It just wasn’t an option. The far newer one I linked above seems to have sorted it for me.

    I am hoping the hangs are lack of memory. I hope this is sorted for release if it is :-) I’ll let you know what happens when I stick in the 2Gb chip…


    By Mark on Jan 23, 2009

  50. Mark,

    Sorry to hear that. I’ve not seen any of these issues in the three or four days I’ve been running the latest setup described above.

    Let us know how you get along with more memory.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 24, 2009

  51. Hey. Most things going well now. One qu, is anyone having any issues with their wireless connection on resumption from sleep mode when running on battery. Mine doesn’t connect to the network, and usually requires simply disabling, and renabling of the adapter. Was wondering if this could be a problem with the battery manager. Which to be honest, the only evidence I can see after installing is the Samsung optimised power settings in the power options.

    By Charlie on Jan 24, 2009

  52. Hi.. one question..

    With the Easy Battery Manager 3 of X360-34P, do you get the option of controlling display brightness on ‘Power on’ and ‘Battery mode’ i.e. lets say I want to choose 8/8 brightness on ‘Power On’ mode and 3/8 in battery mode – can I do that? so that the moment I switch to battery, the brightness reduces automatically.

    Also, I believe Windows 7 has this function built in – so ideally I should be able to control this aspect without any battery manager – so again, is anybody able to do it without the Easy Battery Manager?

    By Ronin on Jan 25, 2009

  53. First off thanx to all the people contributing to this excellent blog. All the info I needed on one page!

    Re Charlie

    I have experienced similar problems when waking from sleep mode. For me bluetooth stops working completely (using Microsoft bluetooth mouse 5000). The bluetooth icon no longer shows in the system tray and windows will not report any bluetooth devices trying to connect. Reboot fixes the problem, not tried any techie stuff.

    I suspect win7 power management bug, it is beta after all.

    By Shaun on Jan 25, 2009

  54. Re Ronin,

    I recommend installing the latest battery manager and display manager mentioned (X360-34P). The battery manager adds a samsung profile to the power options.

    The only problem, as you mentioned, is that as soon as you go onto battery the display dims after a few seconds. I found a solution to this. Right click the battery icon in the system tray and then select “Windows Mobility Center”. In the window that opens (Samsung branded) in the bottom left there is a box saying “Auto dimming ON”. Switch it to off, et voila! You can still choose to turn off the display etc in the power options profile.

    By Shaun on Jan 25, 2009

  55. Regarding the EBM, I have a similar issue. The EBM turns off the screen brightness after a min if there is no user input, and resumes when there is, however my EBM software is only taking into account keyboard input, not touchpad use. So I have to hit a key every time the screen dims for it to come back to brightness. Slightly annoying as I’d like to have the feature on, but will turn it off if I can’t find a solution. The wireless card issue still remains, where now and then it requires disable/enable for it to connect.

    By Charlie on Jan 25, 2009

  56. Just a quick comment to say thanks. I was already running the Beta, but this post and the comments have ironed out all the minor issues I’ve had.

    Ade – Do you have any info on the possibility of a cut-down/netbook friendly version of Windows 7 that a few sites are suggesting maybe an alternative to Ultimate?

    By Simon on Jan 25, 2009

  57. Simon.

    Glad to hear you got it woroking OK.

    As for a netbook friendly version. I don’t have any info on that. Just to be clear I work for Microsoft but not for the Windows group.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 25, 2009

  58. Re:Shaun

    My issue is not with Auto Dimming (in case of no activity). My issue is reducing the screen brightness automatically when switching from Power to Battery mode. The XP EBM used to do that, i.e. the moment I switched from ‘Plugged in’ to ‘Battery’ it used to reduce the brightness from 8/8 to 3/8. And again when I ‘plugged in’, the brightness used to increase to 8/8. I don’t see that option with the Vista EBM mentioned here.

    By Ronin on Jan 26, 2009

  59. Re Ronin,

    Ah sorry, ISWYM now. No I haven`t seen that feature either. Would be nice if Samsung took the lead and created dedicated win7 software/drivers for the nc10. As we have found out it is perfectly capable of running this new os.

    By Shaun on Jan 27, 2009

  60. Hi again.

    The 2GB upgrade did seem to make things more stable, definitely worth the effort.

    However, I am still sad about the video performance. The Intel video driver is pretty poor. It is find for day-to-day work, but video playback is very jerky and disjointed. Compared to the normal XP install, it is really poor.

    I am a madman, so I am now trying Windows Vista, to see if its video is any better.

    Thanks a lot,

    By Mark on Jan 27, 2009

  61. Hey,

    I ‘may’ have solved my wireless problem, where it wasn’t connecting to my network when booting up on battery. It would connect if I disabled/enable adapter. Anyway, I changed more of the power settings, and set the adapter to run on max performance on battery and so far so good. Will keep an eye out.
    As for video, mine looks ok. Also, there was an optional intel chipset update through the windows update util, have just installed it. May improve things. Video is not too bad for me, I have PES08 running not too bad on the machine. Also NOD32 ans Spybot run fine.

    By Charlie on Jan 27, 2009

  62. Hi, great notes on installing win7! Couldn’t understand your phrases about battery life. What’s the difference in battery usage between winxp and win7? Just several minutes or several hours? Maybe there’re some ways to extend battery life under win7?

    By ellectu on Jan 30, 2009

  63. ellectu,

    I don’t have any solid data on battery life but the Samsung batter manager on fully charged NC10 running XP tells me it’ll get something like 7 hours of usage whereas the number for Win7 is something like 5.5. My guess is this is largely due to not having all the same power optimizations available on Win7. I’ve not investigated further. My solution is to run Win7 99% of the time and use XP for plane flights and times when the battery really matters.


    By Ade Miller on Jan 30, 2009

  64. Thank you very much for this excellent guide. I’m currently running Windows 7 on my NC10 and it’s running very smoothly so far. I am impressed how the Samsung handles the OS.

    I was playing with the Power plan feature in Windows 7 to see if I could bump the battery life further. I kept losing my Wifi internet connection when running in “Power saver” mode – it seems that the energy saving that was forced on the Wifi adapater was too much. I had to set the Wifi mode back to “Maximum performance” to avoid these nasty disconnects. It’s a shame – hovering over the battery life systemtray icon showed me that running in “Power saver” mode could have given me an extra 60 minutes or so of batterylife.

    Also, for those who seem to be suddenly losing the Aero glass userinterface when messing with the Power plans (in combination with running from the battery instead of the powersupply), notice that Aero is automatically disabled by Windows when running in Power saver mode.

    I hope this info will help some people. I think the NC10 is a great netbook, and I’m hoping that Samsung will offer Windows 7 drivers when the final version of the operating system is released. :)

    By Rob on Jan 31, 2009

  65. I wanted to thank you all people for your worthy input on this. I installed Windows 7 on my nc10 three days ago and right now I cant believe how well it’s running. I’m amazed with this OS. No wonder some linux mogul out there claimed that Ubuntu, etc… are gonna have some hard times when this OS is finally released.

    I find it to work a lot in the same way as Ubuntu, (security and all), but with intuitivity and flair. I just love it, I cant keep my hands off it. The aero interface is beautiful.

    I installed the display manager and the touchpad drivers posted above, and after getting tired of the screen dimming after one minute with samsung’s battery manager, I uninstalled it. I like to watch movies on my nc10 while on battery, and Windows 7’s energy profiles are more than enough. I can dim the screen whenever I want with the function keys.

    Taskbar to the left, big icons, autohide, and everything runs smoothly. I cant believe how good this beta is. I can even play streamed divx from my home server on it with no problem at all.

    Amazing. I cant wait for the final version. Im missing windows 7 when I sit on my desktop (still running XP).

    By McNulty on Feb 2, 2009

  66. Just putting my vote in here – have installed Windows 7 via USB stick and its so far so good. Running very smoothly, vast improvement on XP without a doubt. Great the almost everything works out of the box.
    Speakers/mic didn’t work at all until installing the Realtek driver, now fine. Wifi worked straight away (during setup).

    Pity I only bought Vista upgrade for £80 a few months ago, but will definately buy Windows 7 when it comes out as long as I can use it on 2 PCs and can buy the upgrade and installed ‘from fresh’, as you can do with the current Vista upgrade option by re-installing over itself.

    Thanks for the useful blog, will keep my eyes posted for any more developments.

    By Charlie on Feb 2, 2009

  67. P.S. After installing the Samsung battery manager, I don’t get any software, just a different power profile called “Samsung Optimized”. Is this right or should I be able to get the battery software as seen in XP?

    By Charlie on Feb 2, 2009

  68. Sorry, one other thing (can’t edit comments!) – any way to disable the Bluetooth device? In XP you could right-click on the icon and disable it in order (I hoped) to improve battery life, but there doesn’t seem to be that option in Windows 7

    By Charlie on Feb 2, 2009

  69. My first win 7 attemnt on my NC10 resulted in a BSOD(Used win virtual cdrom to install), on my second attemnt i made a 25Gig partition for win 7 and installed directly from within XP hard drive.

    I am stunned how well it works, and also by the nice looks.
    Got the 2 finger scroll working and the fn keys for volume and brigthness, and thats all i need so far.
    Only issue i got is that i need to run the Easy display manager after every reboot.
    Had to install Opera, as i cant get cofortable with IE.
    Win media player is still default, but it migth be swapped for GOM player if i cant get subtitles to run on divx files.

    Huge thanks to everyone who contributed on this blog.

    By TapOut on Feb 3, 2009

  70. Charlie,

    That’s the expected behavior for the Battery Manager on Win7/Vista.


    By Ade Miller on Feb 3, 2009

  71. Three days ago I mentioned that I was at times ‘losing my Wifi connection’ when having the Power Saving Mode (in Power Options) set to ‘Medium Power Saving’ instead of ‘Maximum Performance’. I guess I made an error with that – it was actually my AVG8 Free antivirus that was causing the loss of Wifi connection for me. After checking the various configuration options in AVG, I found that keeping the ‘Resident Shield’ enabled resulted in some performance and Wifi troubles. I have the Resident Shield disabled at this time, and all is running smoothly (and fast!) again.

    I am curious to learn what antivirus solutions you guys are running (if any) on your Win 7 equipped NC10’s. I would prefer keeping AVG8’s on-access scanner enabled, but right now it seems to bugging my Wifi connection (and overall performance) too much.

    Other than that, my Windows 7 on NC10 experience continues to amaze me. It’s all still running smoothly, and I’ve already installed a fair amount of software and services on the machine. I especially love the machine’s battery life and it’s excellent sleep support in the OS. The NC10’s portability is amazing, and I believe it packs a lot of punch for its size indeed. :)

    By Rob on Feb 3, 2009

  72. Charlie,

    Do you mean disable bluetooth completely or just while (say) running on batteries. I’m assuming the latter. In that case I’ve not been able to find a way to do this easily.


    By Ade Miller on Feb 3, 2009

  73. @ Ade,

    Think I worked out the Bluetooth query – it is because in XP the NC10 comes packaged with a 3rd party Bluetooth stack, but not with Win7, so the icon you see in XP is actually the 3rd party software’s icon and not the default Windows one. In Win7 the standard stack is used as this supports things like stereo bluetooth profiles out of the box and 3rd party stacks are not required. I think that’s about the gist of it anyway.

    By Charlie on Feb 4, 2009

  74. Hey there :D Great site, helped me get my microphone working :) and am glad to see I wasn’t the only one who wanted to try this.

    Am having a very specific problem which I can’t find any help for. Am trying to install MATLAB R2007B, but according to the site, neither the processor or the OS are supported. Have heard that others have got it working, so am confused. Installs fine, when I try to run, the splash screen appears for a fraction of a second then nothing happens. Is very frustrating, as it did actually load once for no apparent other reason. Hope someone here has found a workaround :)

    By Marchos on Feb 6, 2009

  75. I am having issues getting the keyboard functions to work, i can only find an xp install of magic keyboard and it is not working.

    By retrend on Feb 6, 2009

  76. Hey :D never mind, sorted for myself: found out that the R2008b version does work with a stand-alone licence only (licence server used in server licence does crash immediately though)

    By Marchos on Feb 7, 2009

  77. Love Win7 on the NC10. Question – anyone experience choppy video when watching flash through the usual network television sites?

    By Eric on Feb 7, 2009

  78. I’ve installed Easy Display Manager for vista,but I cannot use most Fn functions such as change the brightness/volume after waking form sleep/hibernate.

    By twilightgod on Feb 7, 2009

  79. Hey,

    So I have installed win 7 on my new nc10, and I was hoping someone could help me out on a few things.

    I was having problems with sound cutting out after putting it into sleep and turning it back on. Unfortunately the Realtek 3d drivers on the website do not seem to be working because I can not uncompress them on a couple of machines!

    I have also been experiencing problems with the synaptics xp drivers, so I might just have to live without two finger scrolling for now.

    Thanks for a very helpful blog! Hopefully you can keep us updated on all the new stuff!

    I have a 2 gig stick of ram that I have not put in yet, but so far everything else seems to be somewhat working.

    By z2so4 on Feb 9, 2009

  80. Hi Is anyone having the problem such as when i load a website on explorer No PICTURES are shown and every time i have to go in to TOOLS Then INTERNET OPTIONS then click on the advanced tab then scoll down to the unticked box which says SHOW PICTURES. I tick this and it works but when i turn off and go back online again the SHOW PICTURES box is unticked again. Any Ideas.

    By kevin on Feb 9, 2009

  81. Hi everyone,
    I installed the EBM and EDM yesterday and since, I’ve been experiencing the following problems:
    – lack of reactivity : boot time got really longer;
    – unable to connect to Wireless network at boot time : I have to run the troubleshooter and have it to reset the Wireless adapter.
    I uninstalled the EDM today but yet, still have problems. I’d like to keep EBM as it allows me to use the Fn keys.
    Thanks in advance !

    By Kroaaa on Feb 10, 2009

  82. Hey,

    So I have installed win 7 on my new nc10, and I was hoping someone could help me out on a few things.

    I was having problems with sound cutting out after putting it into sleep and turning it back on. Unfortunately the Realtek 3d drivers on the website do not seem to be working because I can not uncompress them on a couple of machines!

    I have also been experiencing problems with the synaptics xp drivers, so I might just have to live without two finger scrolling for now.

    Thanks for a very helpful blog! Hopefully you can keep us updated on all the new stuff!

    I have a 2 gig stick of ram that I have not put in yet, but so far everything else seems to be somewhat working.

    By z2so4 on Feb 11, 2009

  83. Thanks for this guide – it’s the best thing I’ve found to guide me through getting Windows 7 usable on my NC10.

    An additional note – if anyone is having problems getting their Huawei 3G modem (I have the E169) to work you just need to ensure that the connection manager program (wilog.exe in my case) is set to run as Administrator).

    By Ben on Feb 11, 2009

  84. Kroaaa

    Re: your wireless problem, see above. You should try adjusting the power settings to have your wireless run under maximum performance instead of power saver mode. It is under the power settings, advanced. Worked for me and no longer have to reset the wireless adapter.

    By Charlie on Feb 12, 2009

  85. Hello Guys.I was using the Easy Battery Manager for Windows Xp and everything was fine. Since i installed the latest Vista Manager i can’t even load it nor run it! And i see from add remove programs that the version is not 8. Any suggestions?Thank you

    By Panikas on Feb 15, 2009

  86. Hello everyone. I used vLite on Windows 7 and removed “Windows Mobility Center” so when I installed Easy Battery Manager 3 from the link above, I could not disable the auto-dimming feature, which is super annoying!

    Here’s the fix:
    Start > Search for “run” > type “regedit” > Browse


    Double click on “LCDAudoDimmingFlag” and change the value from “1” to “0”

    Restart and enjoy dim free movies!

    In my next install of Windows 7 using vLite, I’ll make sure not to check the mobility center.

    By Galileo on Feb 17, 2009

  87. Edit: updated the regedit path. The previous post is incorrect. Sorry!

    Hello everyone. I used vLite on Windows 7 and removed “Windows Mobility Center” so when I installed Easy Battery Manager 3 from the link above, I could not disable the auto-dimming feature, which is super annoying!

    Here’s the fix:
    Start > Search for “run” > type “regedit” > Browse


    Double click on “LCDAudoDimmingFlag” and change the value from “1? to “0?

    Restart and enjoy dim free movies!

    In my next install of Windows 7 using vLite, I’ll make sure not to check the mobility center.

    By Galileo on Feb 17, 2009

  88. For WiFi issues, just go into WiFi adapter properties (Power Management tab) and uncheck the option that says “Alow the computer to turn off the deviceto save power” this should resolve te isue.

    By Matjaz on Feb 19, 2009

  89. Great posting! Thanks for all to great information from everyone.

    By Mark Wagner on Feb 20, 2009

  90. im on a wireless network i put the windows 7 dvd in my desktop allowed sharing and installed it fine over wifi onto my nc10.might be useful for anyone without an external dvd.

    dont know if its been said but how do you adjust brightness via the keyboard?

    By betelgeus on Feb 24, 2009

  91. To adjust brightness with the keyboard you need to install the Easy Display Manager software refered to in the main post.


    By Ade Miller on Feb 24, 2009

  92. Hi,
    It’s been a while since anyone has posted here, but I’ve only just read this and it’s helped me set up my W7 NC-10. Everything is working great, apart from my mouse regularly freezes (every 15-20 mins) and so I have to navigate using the buttons to the control panel and access the mouse settings, and re-apply them. This takes about 5 mins, in the mean time the settings window doesn’t respond. I’m using the Synaptics Touchpad drivers and the 2 finger scrolling software. Anyone else having this problem? :S

    By Ben on Mar 8, 2009

  93. Hi I just bought the NP-NC10 and cannot see how to turn the FN button off – so everytime I try to type letters on the right side of the keyboard , the numbers come off no matter how many times I try and press the “Fn” button bottom left ?? Has anyone got any suggestions please? I’m probably just being stupid but …….

    By DAVE on Mar 11, 2009

  94. Dave,

    Are you running Windows 7 on it with the additional software mentioned above or is this an issue you’re having with the original XP install?


    By Ade Miller on Mar 11, 2009

  95. Working fine since 3 weeks with FN functionnalities, sound and jack not working after the machine wake up.
    To put all running again I have to reboot the system.

    Now the WPA2-Personal wifi didn’t work but I can connect to unsecure one.

    So I will reinstall XP Home to have everything working fine.

    it was a very good experience with 7 and this website help me so much.

    Thanks and forgive my english…

    By Ricco on Mar 12, 2009

  96. dave its f11,cant try it with either alt or shift one of them works

    By betelgeus on Mar 12, 2009

  97. fn+f11

    By betelgeus on Mar 12, 2009

  98. hi i gt a samsung nc10 installed windows 7 i cant get the function keys to wrk can smbody please help me out…

    By sehaj on Mar 13, 2009

  99. Sehaj,

    Have you installed Easy Display Manager This is what gives you the vistaul feedback on the FN keys. Do they not work or do you just not see feedback?


    By Ade Miller on Mar 13, 2009

  100. hi,

    I was getting BSOD when running windows 7 and now vista. Saying there is a partity check error. Happened with original 1gb and now my new 2gb Dimm. Does anyone know a fix, is it hardware/software related/drivers etc?



    By Mark Brown on Mar 18, 2009

  101. Mark,

    I’ve had an occasional BSOD related to a parity check on Win7 but the original XP install seems solid. Not tried Vista.


    By Ade Miller on Mar 18, 2009

  102. Thanks for the reply Ade.

    I am guessing you don’t think it is anything to worry about then. Not faulty motherboard etc? in other words it doesn’t warrant sending it off to Samsung etc?



    By Mark Brown on Mar 18, 2009

  103. Mark,

    I put down the crashes I saw in Windows 7 to a bad driver related to a beta OS. My XP install hasn’t had any issues and the memory check diagnostic doesn’t find any problems.

    The Vista crashes are more concerning but I don’t have any experience of running Vista on the NC10. What drivers/application do you have installed on Vista?


    By Ade Miller on Mar 18, 2009

  104. Strange but true.

    I was reading this post and downloading drivers from links, to ensure I had a good working NC10.

    The only problems I had thus far (1 day use) was, no audio and the screen seems bigger although set at 1024 x 600.

    Anyway, I installed the Synaptics driver as mentioned above and now the audio works!

    Any ideas why the screen display seems larger, than the original screen with XP home? Or am I just imagining it!

    By Paul Digby on Mar 19, 2009

  105. Hi Ade:

    I found this blog tremendously helpful. I’ve had the NC10 for about three weeks now, and one on W7. Had some problems with the original build. But most of them got solved when I found your blog and loaded some of the latest drivers.

    One new annoyance: The screen dims as per the Win7 power saving protocol. Okay no big deal, but it won’t recover through either the mouse or the touchpad. ONLY the keyboard. Any advice? I am running the Synaptics Vista drivers.


    By John on Mar 31, 2009

  106. John,

    I’m seeing the same thing. Screen dims and only goes bright again when you press a key, not when you move the touchpad/mouse.


    By Ade Miller on Mar 31, 2009

  107. Hi Ade,

    The BSOD that I mention in my previous post seems to have disappeared with Build 7057 of Windows 7. I have just downloaded Build 7068 but I don’t think I will install that on my Netbook yet, I might wait for the official May RC and do it then.

    Seems that the later builds are slowly sorting minor problems – touch wood.



    By Mark Brown on Apr 1, 2009

  108. For those running IE8 and using F11 to enlarge the screen viewing area… another trick I have found works well on most websites is to set a custom zoom level of 85% (you might find different value works better for your eyesight). You set this using the bottom right hand corner, click where it says 100%, then click custom, and enter 85% (or whatever). This will work on that session only. If you like the effect, and want to save that for ALL future browsing, click “Tools” menu, “Internet Options”, “Advanced” tab, “Accessiblity” section, untick “Reset zoom level for new windows & tabs”. Click “OK”.

    You will find that more of the page fits on the screen whether you press F11 or not. With F11 pressed as well, you get very comfortable browsing experience now!

    Another tip I have is to drag the Windows task bar to dock on the left of the screen, so that you don’t lose even more of your precious vertical screen space! I’ve actually used that taskbar location for years (even in XP), since I prefer the start button to be at top left anyway, which means the start menu opens down & right (rather than up and right which seems awkward to me!). With any widescreen monitor, you tend to have plenty of spare width but tight on screen height. More so on the NC10 than a standard desktop computer. This tip keeps that precious vertical screen space available for every program you use. If you like width too, you can autohide the taskbar too, and I still prefer it on the left for that purpose.

    I have one question though, using the Synaptics Vista driver, does anyone else get a UAC style prompt at every startup from the synaptics driver? No matter what option I select (including don’t ask me again) it comes up every time. If no-one else is seeing this then I will just try re-installing the driver.



    By Mike on Apr 23, 2009

  109. most problems above fixed with build 7100.

    for touchpad, get synaptics driver.

    By John on May 1, 2009

  110. Hi guys, i have installed windows 7 rc on my samsung nc10 and i don’t get anything problem with its drivers. When i have started Win7 afterwards, i saw that i was unable to have Aero. I tried to download some mobile intel 945GMS drivers but issue is still present. I tried many solutions surfing the net, but nothing…no positive results. Seems that Windows desktop manager is unable to start itself and the graphic card is not recognised by Win. In the end i tried the microsoft drivers (by microsoft update) but Aero doesn’t work the same. Can you help me please?

    Sorry for my bad english i’m italian :D


    By Giorgio on May 7, 2009

  111. There is now an updated post for the Windows 7 RC.

    So I’ve closed comments on this post. If you’re having issues with getting Windows 7 RC running post comments there instead.



    By Ade Miller on May 8, 2009

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